Tuesday, May 31, 2011

Did Jesus destroy/abolish/break/distort/… the Mosaic Laws given by GOD?

There have been long discussions about it. I was reading about it on the Internet %26amp; I got two types of views.



No. 1 view says that Jesus in fact BROKE/REPLACED/ABOLISHED the Mosaic Laws.

No. 2 view says that Jesus just fulfilled it.



Now I'm confused about it for some verses given below: -



Leviticus 24:19-20: If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured.

Jesus, on the other hand, stated:

Matthew 5:38–39: You have heard that it was said, “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.

At this point it seems that Jesus might have broken the Mosaic Law given by God %26amp; replaced it with His own law. How could the changed law be given to Jesus from God where God Himself claimed that He wouldn’t change?



Malachi 3:6: I am the Lord, I do not change.



When God gave the Laws to Israelites through Moses, God strictly warned all of them to keep it %26amp; not to add to it or change it. Though I can’t remember the exact verses that say so, but I know these are written somewhere in the Old Testament. But it looks like not only did Jesus just change or break it, but He didn’t even care about it.



For example: -



In the Old Testament, the collection of food on the Sabbath is strictly forbidden:

Exodus 16:28-29: The Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Remain each of you in his place; let no one go out of his place on the seventh day.

In the Gospel of Mark, however, Jesus and his disciples broke this Mosaic commandment. Challenged by the Pharisees, Jesus justified their actions:

Mark 2:23-27: One Sabbath he was going through the grainfields, and as they made their way, his disciples began to pluck heads of grain. And the Pharisees were saying to him, ';Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?'; …And he said to them, ';The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.';

So could you please explain these to me? The point that confuses e is that how could the same person, who forbade us to look at women lustfully in order to commit no adultery, break God’s Law. Either we’ve misunderstood Him or He was fake.Did Jesus destroy/abolish/break/distort/… the Mosaic Laws given by GOD?
Y'shua the Messiah fulfilled/completed the Torah/Law, He came %26amp;

showed how it should be lived out %26amp; as our Messiah, He never broke

the Torah, nor did He distort or change it.

1John3:4 Sin is the transgression of the Law, If Messiah Y'shua broke

the Law then He sinned %26amp; is not our sinless lamb.

He never broke, distorted or changed the Torah that YHWH gave %26amp; is

our sinless Lamb.

The law states that you are not to work on the Sabbath, plucking a

few heads of grain is not work, they were not harvesting a field.

Man made pharisaical laws are not YHWH's Torah.Did Jesus destroy/abolish/break/distort/… the Mosaic Laws given by GOD?
The Law was not abolished.



http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/NC/
Distorted and broke it.
No, he fulfilled it.
Yes, no Mosaic for Jesus, he opted for a wooden floor instead. I guess it has to do with his stepdad being a carpenter... :-P
i thought jesus said he did not come to change the law but to add to it. i'm not clergy
It does seem completely arbitrary. Keep some of the laws, throw some others out...



The part about God not changing (by His own words) is very interesting! I'd say the pattern of behavior varied greatly throughout the Bible.



I firmly believe there was no Jesus as stated in the Bible, and I believe everything in the Old Testament is fiction for the purpose of moral lesson or instillation of fear.
To clarify:



1 - they are not 'mosaic laws'. They are G-D's laws, given BY him TO the Jews at Mt Sinai.



2 - Jesus has nothing whatosever to do with the Jewish religion. Nothing.



3 - Nobody gets to overturn the laws of G-D.



4 - 14 million Jews may take issue with you about any 'old covenant' as there is no such thing. Our covenant with G-d is ETERNAL as stated BY G-d.



5 - the followers of Jesus, Christians, were never bound BY the Jewish religious laws to START with. The fact that Christians use a misinterpreted and mistranslated version OF our JEWISH scriptures has no bearing on anything.



6 - Jesus did not 'fulfill' anything in Judaism.

And Christianity does not get to decide that he did.

JEWS define JUDAISM.



http://www.jewishanswerstochristianquest…
Absolutely NOT..



Jesus said I come to fulfill the LAW..NOT TO DESTROY IT.

Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version)



17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.



18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version)



17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.



18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.



19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea…
Your citation of Malachi 3:6 is taken out of context. It says, '; I am the Lord, I do not change, therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed.';



Why were they not consumed? Because they had violated the law, and in the law God said he would consume them should they break and disregard that law. So here we have God ';violating'; a condition of that law because of a greater purpose. But you imply God does not change in regard to that covenant law!



Your take on things in regards to Jesus and that time is like that of the Pharisees who felt man was to serve the law, instead of the law being of service to man.



What Jesus did was demonstrate the spirit of the law; how the law was ';fulfilled'; through love as contrasted to merely keeping the law in the letter. So he ended up breaking the law in the letter while fulfilling the law in the letter. Those of a hard heart cannot comprehend this, being stuck in the letter of the law to the exclusion of the spirit.



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No, because a man cannot change/destroy/abolish/break/distort the covenant that G-d had set up. Jesus was just a man, he cannot change G-d's laws just because he thought he could. The same goes for anyone else who thinks they can change G-d's rules.



And any man or woman claiming to be G-d or a demi-god is not to be given any kind of acknowledgment. They are to be disregarded because G-d is G-d and man is man; the two will never mix.



Numbers 23:19



G-d is not a man, that He should lie; neither the son of man, that He should repent: When He hath said, will He not do it? Or when He hath spoken, will He not make it good? Behold, I am bidden to bless; and when hath blessed, I cannot call it back.



When you are reading the Bible you have to understand something: You should either believe exclusively in the Tanch (the Old Testament) or the New Testament but not both because they clearly contradict each other.
He followed the written Torah perfectly, and we are to walk just as he walked. You cannot find a single place where he lived contrary to the written Torah. He admonished us to keep every command of the Torah.



When someone has been wronged, they have the option to forgive. That is the lesson I get from the passage in Leviticus. While a person may have the right to exact revenge, is this how we should react?



The Almighty does not prefer that one starve on the Sabbath. Those men were out traveling around the countryside, and they ate enough to stave off the hunger. They weren't harvesting the field! The Pharisees have missed the point of the Sabbath altogether. It's those little matters that get blown up into huge matters that will damn mens' souls.



Yeshua did nothing that the Pharisees and Rabbis are not even more guilty of. At least Yeshua's interpretations were made from love, and not to control the masses.

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